I’m pretty sure that this isn’t what Jesus would do

This really is horrific, if it’s true. I couldn’t find the email on question anywhere on the Citizen-Link web site, but if it’s from today, it may just not be up yet. I’d like to see it corroborated. I’d appreciate seeing it linked somewhere. Barring that, if any individuals have it, I’d appreciate having it forwarded to me.

Kill them all and let god sort it out?

Oops…Lucy Goldberg that is.

I think that Focus on the Family is hoping that some of its supporters will physically intimidate Mr. Moore in some way, or they are hoping the mere presence of his address will be tantamount to physical intimidation — giving all the good Christians out there fantasies about those real wackos who are harrassing Michael Moore.

How many people here were outraged when those people camped out on Karl Rove’s front lawn? Or when Moore went to Charlton Heston’s house to “interview” him for Bowling For Columbine?

Too bad FOTF has to stoop that low. Of course they want someone to intimidate Moore and his family. Why else put it in there? It’s not like they are going to ask for autographs. This is pretty sad, but typical of the right these days.

“How many people here were outraged when those people camped out on Karl Rove’s front lawn? Or when Moore went to Charlton Heston’s house to “interview” him for Bowling For Columbine?”

Christians are supposed to be better. They are supposed to hold themselves to a higher standard. They are supposed to actually do more than give idle lip service to what Jesus said. They don’t, though.

Maybe my recollection of Bowling for Columbine is faulty or maybe some relevant facts were omitted, but for what it’s worth:

Moore telephoned Heston saying (truthfully?) that he was an NRA member and documentary film-maker who would like to interview him. Heston consented. It was just an interview, not an “interview.”

I’m still skeptical as to whether the alleged address publication actually occurred. I’ve read yesterday’s Citizen-Link email, and browsed all the recent archives. I’ve also run google searches on various parts of the text of the alleged email, and come up with nothing.

I’ve left comments on Non Prophet’s blog asking for him to forward me the email he got, and to cite more explicitly where it came from (there’s a very strong implication, but not an explicit statement, that it’s from yesterday’s Citizen-Link). I haven’t heard back yet. Does anyone know an email address for Non Prophet?

I’ve also emailed Focus on the Family, asking for them merely to confirm or deny that they sent Michael Moore’s home address to email newsletter subscribers. I’ll post any updates on my blog. There’s a post there now that says more or less the same thing this comment does, but somewhat more thoroughly and longwindedly.

bq. How many people here were outraged when those people camped out on Karl Rove’s front lawn? Or when Moore went to Charlton Heston’s house to “interview” him for Bowling For Columbine?

Yep, outraged by people doing that to Karl Rove (have to admit, though, there are limits to my outrage — I’d admire people doing it to Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Stalin, though I would hope they wouldn’t).

The interview seems fair game, though, assuming Heston was asked for an interview. Just like any other political activist, someone wants to interview you in your house, you check them out, and if you don’t it’s your funeral.

Re: outrage, I’m with Harry. It was seriously abusive to camp out on Rove’s lawn, but I don’t see anything wrong with Moore interviewing Heston.

I called Focus on the Family about two and a half hours ago and talked to a nice man named Mark. I read him the purported email, told him where I found it. He couldn’t confirm or deny it, although he said that it didn’t seem like the sort of thing that they’d send out. He’s promised to call me back; I’ll call again in an hour if I don’t hear from him.

I’ve also emailed Non Prophet to ask for a copy of the email. No response yet. (The guy doesn’t post his email address, which contains his real name, so I’m not going to give it out either.) If I’ve been taken in by a hoax, I’ll owe FOTF a big apology.

I’ve just gotten it confirmed by a representative of FOTF. See the new update.

I predict we are entering a period of political violence (assassinations). In addition to politicians and political leaders, media figures will be targeted.

I’m sure it’s completely harmless, like when these ‘Christian’ groups post addresses of physicians who perform abortions.

When Moore pointed his camera at that window, or when those people camped on Rove’s lawn – did either of those include an address & an implicit invitation for every cranky nutjob in the US to come by & act out their nutjob revenge fantasies?

Of course they had to publish the home address. That’s the only for their members to, well, Focus on the Family.

I just called, and they confirmed. I politely told them I disapproved of this tactic, and that I thought it invited harrassment. If we all called, it might make an impact.

I can’t wait for the first GOoper to say something stupid like, “Of course we believe in free speech. Mister Moore has a right to make a movie spreading his blame-America-first lies about our great country, and at the same time we have a first amendment right to send his home address to every nutjob on the planet in hopes that somebody has the gonads to murder this sociopath.”
Ever since last year’s Oscar Speech, I have feared for Michael Moore’s safety. No doubt he’s been aware that more than a few people would love to take him out. You’d assume he has some contingencies worked out for this type of thing.

Hmm, I seem to recall my pal Bill O’Reilly repeatedly saying that “you don’t justify bad behavior by pointing at other bad behavior.” Several people here seem to be making the argument that because Michael Moore has become a public figure (in large part by pointing out the hypocrisy of the powerful in our society), it’s fine to put his family in danger. Yes, Heston consented to the interview in BFC, and no, I don’t recall Moore showing us how to get to his house. IMHO, there is nothing particularly Christian, democratic, or family-valued about encouraging personal intimidation and creating a dangerous situation for the family of a person with whom you disagree politically. But maybe that’s just me.

I’m as liberal as they come, but, seriously, what’s the problem with this? It’s not in any way “out of the ordinary” for various interest groups to invite readers to “tell so-and-so what you think,” followed by a release of their phone number and/or address. Heck, the fact that Michael Moore is a registered voter means that this is relatively public information.

Now, why “Focus on the Family” has some sort of beef with Fahrenheit 911 is beyond me. It seems that this stunt falls outside their “mission statement.”

In response to FOTF’s helpful efforts to publish Michael Moore’s whereabouts, I propose that Moore go on a nationwide tour, staying at the home of a different supporter every night. And publicize it, that’s the key, ya know, “tonight Moore will be at the home of Mr. Bush at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington D.C.” In other words, defiantly throw this shit right back in their god damned faces and basically challenge them to keep following Moore from one supporter’s home to the next.

Focus on the Family ?
Or more like
F*ck us, we’re the fascists?

“What about the protestors who camped out on Ken Starr’s front lawn during the Clinton hearings? I’m sorry, but “Christians are supposed to be better” doesn’t cut it as a defense when a) you’ve done it, and b) you claim to be more tolerant than others.”

I beg your pardon, but “I” didn’t do that. I can’t be sure but I don’t think “we” did either. If you can find someone who did do that you can address them.

And yes, public figures should be contacted, held to account, etc. But usually this is done at their offices.

As for whether or not FOTF did a good thing or not, maybe we could contact a doctor who performs abortions and ask her?

=Many groups invite members to tell some public figure what they think, but there’s a decent way and an indecent way to do it. If they had provided Moore’s email address and/or office address, that would have been one thing. Sending out the home address, on the other hand, is an invitation to harrassment and bullying. If we can trust the Godfather II, even the Mafia doesn’t do that. (“In my HOUSE! WHERE MY WIFE AND CHILDREN SLEEP!”) It shouldn’t have happened. If I were another tenant in the building, I’d be outraged; if I were a member of his family, I’d feel seriously threatened.

It’s wrong to harass law-abiding people with whom we don’t agree in their homes. Period. I’m ashamed when people on my side do it. It doesn’t make it OK for FOTF to dabble in it.

It’s not in any way “out of the ordinary” for various interest groups to invite readers to “tell so-and-so what you think,” followed by a release of their phone number and/or address.

Office phone numbers, sure. Home numbers? That’s fucking disgusting.

As a Christian I have very little concern about what Mr Moore may have done that would be comparable to this but FOTF should think twice about if this represents what Jesus would want them to be about doing. What kind of message does this send to a world we Christians are trying to reach when we resort to some of the same tactics if you will that they do (I know that will raise hackles with some but I think most understand my point). Shame on FOTF if this is true.

no doubt moore already had some
plan for crazies showing up to
his house, i would think they
will be fine.

the movie is already out
the truth is out

thank you michael moore.

as for the crazies
they can listen and learn or go fuck themselves

Any posts that contain someone’s home address will be deleted as soon as I see them. Use your heads, folks.

This is for real. I have a subscription to their newsletter (so I can keep an eye on ’em) and sure enough, Michael’s address is right after the third paragraph.

Those fascists.

For Sandy and others who are saying “What about when so-n-so camped on so-n-so’s front lawn?”, there is a difference between protestors gathering at the address, and the address being distributed widely to whomever wants it. When protestors gather, members of the group can be more competently, if not completely, controlled. On an email distribution list, there is NO control because one has no idea who is getting the address and what they will do with it.

No matter how this is spun, FOTF went beyond the pale. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!

Well said, Michael.

For Sandy and others who are saying “What about when so-n-so camped on so-n-so’s front lawn?”, there is a difference between protestors gathering at the address, and the address being distributed widely to whomever wants it. When protestors gather, members of the group can be more competently, if not completely, controlled. On an email distribution list, there is NO control because one has no idea who is getting the address and what they will do with it.

No matter how this is spun, FOTF went beyond the pale. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!

And paul taylor, you are ABSOLUTELY NO BETTER!! Stop this shit!

Michael Moore is quite capable of taking care of himself. He didn’t acquire enemies like this overnight, you know.

As for that much-discussed Heston interview, as others have pointed out Moore is an NRA member and requested an interview in a perfectly straightforward open-and-above-board manner actually happens
in the interview is that Moore asks questions that Heston doesn’t want to answer — and Heston walks out.

There’s been a lot of loosetalk about Moore supposedly badgering a sick old man.But Heston Alzheimer’s diagnosis didn’t emerge until well after the Moore interview. Being a journalist, I’ve met Charlton Heston several times prior to the Alzheimer’s onset and he was exactly the way he was with Moore. Just prior to the Alzheimer’s announcement there was a Motion Picture Academy event at which Heston was present. Only then was it clear that something
dire had happened to him. He could barely stand up and didn’t appear to know where he was. Thankfully, whoever came with him took him home.

In other words not at all the Heston of “Bowling for Columbine”

As for Dobson and his “Fetus on the Family” group, he obviously believes that Michael Moore is a gay abortion doctor.

you shouldn’t have posted their addresses. I just called FOTF and complained. If it was wrong for them to post MM’s address, it is wrong to post theirs as well. Fortunately, fewer will be reading these comments, but that was still wrong.

Christopher Brandow, what are you referring to re: “… it is wrong to post theirs as well”?

Another reminder: Here’s Focus on the Family’s OFFICE phone number, call and complain: 800-232-6459

How many people here were outraged when those people camped out on Karl Rove’s front lawn? Or when Moore went to Charlton Heston’s house to “interview” him for Bowling For Columbine?

Right on! More to the point, where was Moore when Hitler was killing jews all over Europe? Where was the outrage? Or when Stalin killed millions of Russians for no apparent reason? Or when Willie Horton was furloughed? Bastards.

PS Did anyone realize how frail and old Heston was before the Moore interview? I certainly didn’t. He could have edited it to show that Heston was a racist and left it at that, but no, he took the extraordinary step to show Heston in a sympathetic light. Kudos, Michael. Ambushed interview, my ass.

Typical right-wing smear and intimidation tactics. I encountered the same thing on a smaller scale when a rabid Republican activist tried to silence me by outing my home address and tax records which falsely claimed my business owed taxes. This went to my clients, my colleagues at the newspaper for which I write a column, local activist groups, and I’m sure to a bunch of angry local right-wingers who now know where my home is. We haven’t felt safe here since a packet of right-wing propaganda was dropped off on my doorstep (labeled “your de-programming kit”).

–Kynn

I just called Focus on the Family and verified that they DID include Moore’s address in an e-mail to supporters. I told them that was outragous and the only reason to do this was to intimidate Moore.

“The comment “I hate Christians” is left unchallenged”

It’s called “Not feeding the trolls.” Which is what I should be doing now, instead of responding to you.

“And paul taylor, you are ABSOLUTELY NO BETTER!! Stop this shit!”

Actually, I am a great deal better. I have gay friends, and I don’t call them sinners. I don’t promote conservative political causes and candidates using a non-profit ‘ministry’. I do not raise money for said ‘ministry’ in order to foment hate and bigotry under a ‘Christian’ guise. I did not make a big deal out of how much Dobson spent on his home (which Focus on the Family *DOES* do in their informative message with Moore’s address).

Focus on the Family is free to spout it’s hate and bile, as much as I might disagree with it. I only provided a very small, barely measurable amount of balance to it. To keep silent would go against my grain, in this case. A lot of people, throughout history, have been harmed because people remained silent, you know.

Is publishing Moore’s home address an attempt at intimidation? Oh yeah… That doesn’t happen by accident, or without a reason behind it, FOTF’s coy non-response notwithstanding. As for those offended by the hateful sentiments expressed towards Christians in this string: it is of course unfair (and impossibly inaccurate) to paint such a diverse group with one broad stroke. That said, if Christians (or Muslims, or Jews, for that matter), are offended by being lumped in with the most ignorant and bigoted representatives of their faith, THEY should do something about it. Unless YOU speak up, don’t be surprised when outsiders equate all the members of a religion with it’s most outspoken and outrageous spokespeople. As for FOTF’s claim to be a Christian organization – they could take some apolitical cues from the Savior they purport to worship.

They said it was a contact address? That’s just absurd. Here’s the relevant portion of the email, copied over from Non Prophet:

Write Michael Moore — at Home –with Your Opinions of “Fahrenheit 9/11”

Filmmaker Michael Moore, writer/director of the new Bush-bashing documentary “Fahrenheit 9/11,” has made quite a career out of marketing himself as a man of the people, a populist everyman who fights passionately for the little guy.

That’s why we wanted to make sure “little guys” could let Moore know exactly what they think about his new movie .

So, if you have an opinion about the film — in which Moore plays fast and loose with the facts to build a case that President Bush is an idiot and the war in Iraq is all about oil profits — we suggest you send it to the following address:

Michael Moore
[ADDRESS REMOVED BY N.P.]
New York, NY 10024

That’s his home — a condominium this man of the people, so critical of capitalism, spent $4.5 million on seven years ago. And please don’t worry that it’s wrong to use this address; it’s public record, obtained through New York State mortgage records and Federal Election Commission filings.

Besides, Moore himself endorses the publication of this kind of information: In “Fahrenheit 9/11,” in fact, he projects on screen the private office number of a congressman whose views he opposes — and urges viewers to call it.

Re: Moore, Karl Rove, Ken Starr

One big initial distinction: there’s a difference between finding someone’s home address and doing something with it yourself, and finding that address and emailing it to nutcases around the world.

That someone else protested on Karl Rove’s front lawn doesn’t give me a head-start in tracking him down. So I’d have to rank the Rove and Starr protests as inherently less offensive than the FotF email. If Dobson and a bunch of others had picketed Moore’s house, without sharing his address on the Web, that would put them in more or less the same position as those who protested on Ken Starr’s lawn.

But I’d distinguish the Rove protesters, in a manner that cuts them more slack. Why? Because the Administration that Rove is one of the key players in, has gone out of its way to render itself immune to protests in the standard venues for protest – at speeches, at summits, and the like. The “free speech zones” (which should be the whole country) have prevented protesters from making themselves visible to administration officials anywhere but their homes. So when the protestors show up at their doors, I feel they had it coming to them.

Ken Starr’s a different matter, of course. I’m assuming that protestors could have picketed his office, and if that was the case, they should have left him alone at home.

As far as I can tell, Karl Rove and Charlton Heston don’t have rabid Winnuts threatening their lives.

On the left we make some jokes about those we disagree with, but the tone ios completely different from the rabid violence simmering on these right wing sites. Printing an address in that context is pretty different from confronting a controversial public figure with a camera. Karl Rove knows Michael Moore is going to film jim, not kill him. We don’t know that about these people.

Called, confirmed, criticised twice over, about five minutes time before hanging up on the second phone lackey. i get free long distance they assume a hold call is doing me a disfavor.

This FOTF tactic to intimidate is brownshirt and is the same thing 30s germany succumbed to. They used mobs to run out family businesses then. This is an attempt to incite the few bad ones.

Moore has dealt with this before. Thanks for the free PR. You are in over your heads. We’re using the truth and freedom and love the Constitution it is our SACRED DOCUMENT. Take that! (sound of the preverbial slap of intellect across the face of bias).

Moore will simply load up the cam and have freepers to show what FOTF is really like and about. His neighbors probably appreciate someone who doesn’t litter or tell them how to live and is a law abiding citizen.

If they were to go to Flint like that a whole lot of people would probably be on Mike’s side of the matter as well.

Time to write your congresspeople. Demand audits. Never mind speaking out publicly at this point, there is a paper trail ten miles long showing they are in effect a 527 and have not been using the rules.

Moore knows a few good lawyers who can help.

Thanks for helping get us Moore free publicity.

Well it’s not as if his home address isn’t printed elsewhere on the internet. For example, here: http://www.filmfestivalen.se/1994/TVnation.html

It’s true. I just called them, and tried to be as nice as I could be – these were essentially call center people I was chewing out – but I didn’t realized how pissed off I was. My parents are born again Christians, my Mom listens to that bastard on the radio (or she used to, when I was growing up).

Interestingly, the first person I got must not have known what was up, because she claimed they didn’t give out Moore’s address. The one she forwarded me to, however, did. I reminded her, as gently as I could, that Jesus said to love our enemies, not paint targets on their homes.

Dr. Dodson is the founder of this group. I spoke with Nancy who was very polite, Nicholas in Correspondence who hung up on me even though I was very polite. I called back, got Josh on the phone who indicates it was not a “well thought out action” and agreed with my sentiments 100% – at least with regard to posting Mr. Moore’s home address.

I suggested a retraction, since this exposure flies in the face of their stated premise, FOCUS ON THE *FAMILY*…

I’m sorry, but this is not that big a deal. Moore lives on the 17th floor of a building on the Upper West Side, for pete’s sake. It’s not like people are going to be peeking in his windows or camping out on his lawn.

Tip for famous people: put your property in a nominee trust if you don’t want other people to look up your name in tax records.

“Can we please stop overgeneralizing. There are wackos on both sides and everywhere in between.”

Stop overgeneralizing, mcl. There are wackos on both sides, but the last time I checked only one of them was rabid about making other people scared for their lives based on their personal opinions. I might be naive about this, but when was the last time Earth First killed somebody in cold blood? Or the ACLU? Or GreenPeace? Or AmnestyInternational?

If you want to see more about the wide gulf between each side’s ‘hate groups’, go to dniewert.blogspot.com. He’s been chronicling the whole affair and it doesn’t look pretty for wingnut apologists.

But this is perfectly ok for the left to do right?..

Michael Moore reveals talk host’s number
In presentation to 8,500 plays answer machine with cellphone details
——————————————————————————–
Posted: October 28, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
In a presentation to 8,500 fans in Portland, Ore., author, filmmaker and political activist Michael Moore placed an impromptu phone call to the home of a conservative radio talker, revealing the host’s private cellphone number.

Michael Moore (courtesy United Artists)
Lars Larson, who recently launched a nationwide show in addition to his local program, said Moore apparently asked the audience Thursday night to suggest the name of someone to call, reported KATU-TV in Portland. Larson’s name came up, and an audience member had his home number, which Moore then dialed.

Moore played Larson’s answering machine message to the crowd over the public address system, which included the talk host’s personal cellphone number.
The cell number was heard each time Moore tried to reach Larson during the presentation.
The cellphone hasn’t stopped ringing since, said KATU.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35298

I seem to remember a devout Christian that gave out a current address of a prominent social liberal to those that disapproved of the message that person was trying to communicate.

That “devout Christian” was Judas…so now you know the place “Focus on the Family” has in the Christian faith.

Jeff,

NO! THAT’S WRONG, TOO!

WWJH: Who Would Jesus Harass?

Just a bit of reality for those who don’t know NY.

If Moore lives in a multi-million dollar condo on the Upper West Side (the zip gave it away, so I’m not disclosing anything new), they undoubtedly have doormen. The UWS doorman are currently getting trained in anti-terrorist activity, and I am sure that, since Moore has lived there for a little while, these doormen are used to dealing with cranks and dangerous-looking people.

It’s still a despicable thing to do, but Moore & family are probably alot safer than Rove or Starr.

God Bless the doorman, for he shall protect us from crazy people and receive our packages.

It figures, these so called men of God have a lot to answer for. THey rape the people in the name of Jesus Christ and count on the people being so desparate that they do not think about what is actually going on. I sincerely hope that someone calls James Dobson to the carpet on this. He has lost his way, and has become nothing more than a right wing shrill

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com

I got the i and the e messed up…

orcinus has some great material in the archives… there are some mean people out there.

Just a small point, but in case anyone is fooled into believing that the address was given out so that the fine members of FOTF could communicate with Michael Moore, he has a web-site, a production company, a publicist and a film distributor all of whom have phone numbers, addresses both physical and e-mail and people who are happy to take a message.

It is completely unnecessary for anyone to go trolling through the real estate records to communicate with Moore. He’s in the communications business.

joshowitz5 – As peskyfly hints at above, having a doorman didn’t help John Lennon much…

I lump in with those who feel this stuff is why famous people and professionals have OFFICES

This may be very enligtining, were any FOTF members crazy enough to do something bad.

Hope MM has a Panic Room.

In those instances where MM HAS shown up at someones HOME in a not so announced way (at least 1 instance on his first TV series), it has been after documented multi-year efforts by residents of a building trying to contact the business in question.

I don’t recall Moore saying exactly where he and his camera crew were though, beyond the town name….

This FOTF group, they have an agenda… and judging by their leadership, they can’t all be counted on to think things through…

Well, it’s just as likely some of his fans will get the address as well and show up with camera’s 24/7 for the duration. He could use the footage it in his next movie, should the nearly inevitable dramatic moment comes of this.

I just called that 800 number and left a message of support on what they did…in fact I told them to expose what happened when Moore gave out that cell phone number for Lars Larson…not only was his privacy invaded, but he also had death threats from the “loving” people that make up the left..Hey James Dobson…I sent out a donation to ya!!!!…the check should be there soon….!!!!!!

One more thing here, what does Jesus have to do with this? Is there a scripture in the Bible that says “Thou shall not give out personal info”?…I will tell you what is not Christlike….it’s making millions of dollars making movies complaining about people making millions of dollars….besides we all know liberals do not even believe in Christ, well that is until something like this makes it conveniant for them to..

RE:vicepresident@whitehouse.gov
Hi folks,
I’m new to this blog stuff so bear with me please.
This past Monday I e-mailed Dickhead Cheney at the WH with the subject line: FUCK YOU! You arrogant bastard! (no message) and e-mailed him the NY TIMES article on the success of F.9/11 via the “e-mail a friend” option with the following message: Eat your hopefully diseased heart out, you arrogant mother fucker!
(I heard he wants MORE!) ;)

We shouldn’t be so astonished at FOTF publishing the home address of MM. It is a common tactic of rabid anti-abortionists. That crowd has published home addresses not only of doctors that legally perform abortions but also which churches they attend, which schools their children attend, and other folk associated with the doctors…

Hey michael the new blogger thanks for giving me something to blog on my weblog……here ya go sparky..

http://weblogs.therightsociety.com/ritewinger/archive/2004/07/01/1161.aspx

At the 1994 Stockholm film festival website, Moore’s Dog Eat Dog Films production company address was given as being at the Bromley in NYC: http://www.bromleycompanies.com/prop4_right.htm

The apartment number was not included, but several other websites listed it prior to Citizen-Link mailing:

http://www.jlokay.com/Archive.htm
http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/001146.html

I visited someone living at the Bromley in the mid-90s. You cannot get in without being cleared by the doormen, like at most NYC condos, coops, and so-called ‘luxury rentals’. I lived in one at 71 Broadway, far south of Moore.

Nevertheless, Citizen-Link clearly acted recklessly. They could have omitted the apt. number.

CLB

Focus on the Family? What an interesting event, a “Christian” organization sending out an address of a well known personality. Does anyone know what the content of the message was that contained the address. They could just want all the prayers sent to a specific address.

The current “Christian” movement supporting a political movement have missed the most important part of what they profess. If you are a “Christian”, why not behave in the manner prescribed by the teaching. This translates into, not opposing abortion, but supporting the death penalty. Accepting your “brothers & sisters”, not advocating hatred toward someone of another faith.

I recently viewed a bumper sticker which summed the situation up very simply. It stated:
“If going to church makes you a Christian, does going to the garage make you a car?”

Why should’t James Dobson have his home address posted on the internet?

Why should’t James Dobson have his home address posted on the internet?

Oh, good lord, camping out on Rove’s lawn, interviewing Charlton Heston and training cameras on Lucy whatsherface is not the same thing as sending out someone’s address to thousands of people who may regard him as a political enemy.

1. Charlton Heston was the president of a national organization – the most well-funded lobby in the US. He was fair game for an interview at that point any time, any where. He doesn’t want to deal with people asking him about the NRA, then he shouldn’t president.

2. Did anybody in the newsmedia reveal Rove’s home address? No? Well, then I guess he wasn’t facing physical peril as result of that and so that isn’t the same thing either. Remember all those Wingnuts hanging around outside of…(I forgot the name of it) the residence where the VP lives demanding Al get out during the election debacle? What happened to Rove is the same as what happened to Gore.

3. Same Question as #2 – Did Michael reveal Lucy’s address? I don’t think so. If he did, it’s the same thing. If he didn’t, it’s one more examply of whining wingnuts begging to be victimized.

What is it with your conservatives? You can snatch victimhood out of any situation you’re presented with. I’ve never known a group of people so determined to convince the world they’re oppressed. Poor you.

(deleted; it’s a long spam, posted three times, that I’m not in the mood to overlook.)

The Focus on the Family “christian” group apparently did not consider the potential harm there would be to Moore’s own family by giving out this private information. I think Moore has 1 or 2 college age daughters and a wife, and they certainly do not deserve any ill will that can be directed at them because of Michael’s work.

Maybe Mr. Dobson would like a taste of his own medicine. Punk!

Moore never told anyone where the people he interviewed and watched were living. He found it through public documents, but he kept it to himself. As a friend of someone hunted down and murdered by RW religious fanatics, I think what FOTF did was horrendous – if Moore had done that, Bill O’Reilly and Ashcroft would be calling for his head. I agree with the post that we’re probably in for a wave of political assassinations. Bush’s agenda isn’t world domination alone – it’s paving the way for the Second Coming.(If you don’t believe it, you’re not reading his own words. PAY ATTENTION!) That kind of zealotry demands completion. At what cost and to whom should make everyone on this blog scared to death

Choicelady

Hey idiot. Cellphone numbers can be easily changed. Addresses of your HOME cannot.

Kynn,

Sorry some jerk did that to you, but it rings hollow to say it’s typical “right wing” tactics, when both sides engage in it.

Oh stepping not so lightly into that jack booted night.

Hey Ted, or whoever you are.I removed that one..and added this one..you will like it better, these were what your resident nut-job, Michael, or “Loco” as he prefers sent me:..Enjoy!!

http://weblogs.therightsociety.com/ritewinger/archive/2004/07/02/1168.aspx

For the record, I have no idea why a dead blog showed up on here four times…

Dobson lives in Colorado Springs where the Focus on the Family has its sprawling national headquarters and family campus. The email newsletter comes from the Washington DC office, where Tony Perkins is the ‘Advocacy’ guru. Most of the hardline advocacy alerts to call and let someone know your opinion come from Tony You might check the CoSprings phone book for the Rev’s number.

Dobson lives in Colorado Springs where the Focus on the Family has its sprawling national headquarters and family campus. The email newsletter comes from the Washington DC office, where Tony Perkins is the ‘Advocacy’ guru. Most of the hardline advocacy alerts to call and let someone know your opinion come from Tony You might check the CoSprings phone book for the Rev’s number.

To Ted:

Re: FOF and Moore’s address

You sound like an extremely cynical person.

And I’m not sure that you’re in a position to say what Jesus would or would not do. I don’t think any of us are.

Shawn:

We laugh at you.

Signed,

Everyone

Moore’s persecution comes as no surprise to me in the current political environment, which is more akin to civil war than political struggle. It is certainly wrong when either side invades the peace and security of a family for political reasons, but anyone who take a high profile role in the partisan war should expect no less. Were I Moore, I would have moved and covered my tracks before the release of the movie.

The real difference between the right and the left in this sort of situation is that the left protests and annoys, but the right harrasses and kills. Wackos like Focus on the Family release this sort of information in the hope that some poor psychotic bastard will think he’s the vengence of God and actually hurt someone. The left generally wants to draw attention to the hypocrisy of those whose privacy they violate. Neither purpose is acceptable, but one is poor judgement and unfair, the other is criminal and malevolent.

Y’all are forgetting when Mikey Moore gave out Lars Larson’s cell phone number at a public event aren’t ya…

evilelvis, …These are people for the most part who think Michael Moore is only lesser of a man compared to Saddam..In fact it’s quite amusing that 99.9% of the time these people hold the Islamic religion to the highest degree. Now all the sudden, they are so concerned about “what would Jesus do?” So no Evilelvis, Moore could not possibly have done wrong by giving out that number.

proponents of moveon.org assaulted a man in Vegas just for saying Kerry was no better than Bush as they were distributing leaflets about F911.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1970759

Someone has Jeff in a lather. Priceless that he has to troll a non-rightwing site, trying desperately to promote his own. Sorry, kid, you have stirred no interest. Get back to pulling wings off of flies, will you?

FOTF is being most un-Christlike. Jesus said that His kingdom was not of this world.

‘There is no god but Bush ,and Cheney is his prophet.’ Humbug!

the solution is simple. Find James Dobson’s address, and release it. Then find the addresses of any other freeper assholes who think this is cute.

By the way, the link to http://tom.metzgerfamily.net above is classic. Aside from simplistic, inane political cartoons and multiple quotes from scripture, it includes pictures of our hero, the proud, conservative web scribe — who could not appear more pathetic — taking his four year old son to Hooters for his birthday. Check it out:
http://www.elijahmetzger.com/gallery4/ . And indeed, he includes a copy of the Citizen Link e-mail sent out by FOTF.

I wonder what Dobson would think of our hero’s choice of venue for his son’s birthday celebration. Family values, indeed!!!!!!! The family that checks out scantily clad babes together, stays together.

The rage expressed on this blog only makes sense if one assumes that the readers of Focus on the Family are gonna’ come to Moore’s house in a mob attack. I haven’t been able to verify the fact or intent of the posting of his address, but, knowing FOTF, I suspect that the purpose was to allow supporters to express their opinions directly to Moore.
Religious conservatives are not fanatics ready to come at their enemies with guns ablazin’.
Being one myself, we want to participate in the public discussion. Better talking to your enemies then shootin’ them.